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1/3/2007 6:19 AM Not only our earth-nature gives such negative reactions, it does some repulsion:Inflicting on the heights the abysm's law, It sullies with its mire heaven's messengers: Here “abysm” refers to our material world, which has it’s own laws like limitations, ignorance, inconscience, death, etc. in contrary to the “abysm”, Sri Aurobindo speaks of “heights” which naturally refers to The Supreme or His Region, from where the Truth descends. The earth-nature “Inflicts” the laws of our material world on such heights. Sri Aurobindo holds a mirror here. We always tend to “confine” the Divine according to our limitations or even to be on a fair side even according to our convenience. One general example. If you ask some one “Where is God?” 99% of the chances are that he or she may show you a temple. Temples are the places where a particular deity, which is a semblance of a particular form of Grace of The Supreme, is profoundly instituted for our concentration. But we limit – if it can be said so - Divine only to temples and we do the things against Him in other places, just making it convenient for us to carry our illegal activities. Not just this, our material nature does not accept the message of the “heaven’s messengers” and “sullies” then with “mire”. Here “mire” means a lot. Forget about accepting the Divine’s message, we humiliate the messengers, just like what happened with Jesus Christ.
THEMOTHERSCHILD
1/3/2007 6:20 AM Its thorns of fallen nature are the defence It turns against the saviour hands of Grace; It meets the sons of God with death and pain.Whenever a messenger from the Supreme comes here with a message and conveys the same to us, our “fallen nature” which Sri Aurobindo compares to thorns, puts up certain defense against such “sons of god” and turns these thorns as return for their “saviour hands of Grace”. The Grace of Supreme always protects us from any sort of difficulties or problems or difficulties. But our nature, for which ignorance and inconscience are the Bliss, constantly rejects His Grace and it always makes us to take up a path that takes us away from Him. Further Sri Aurobindo says, our nature “meets the sons of the God with death and pain”. For the messengers like Jesus Christ, not only our Nature’s response was “pain” and “death”, I personally feel one more dimension to these words here. If we do not accept the message from the Divine, through such messengers it gives them pain, a sharp pain. They suffer a lot because of our reluctance to them. Any reluctance or ignorance shown to by us to them is their “death”. Because they sacrifice their Perfection, take a mortal birth, live in a mortal body, to uplift our Consciousness, and lead us to Supreme. And if we do not accept their message and be those values, their sacrifice is going waste. To us The Mother and Sri Aurobindo have given us a message, a message to evolve from earth-nature to Divine Nature, to Super Human Nature. The Mother has promised us that She will take us to our real destiny. The only things we are supposed to do are aspire higher and higher for such Nature, and reject all the things which diverts us from the Divine Path and finally a Total and Integral Surrender. Let us complete this discussion with a prayer in Her Lotus Feet to bestow us with the aspiration that leads us to reject all the things which keeps us away from Her and enables us to surrender ourselves totally & integrally
THEMOTHERSCHILD
1/3/2007 6:23 AM References1. Sri Aurobindo's Savitri: An Apporach and A Study by Sri A B Purani.2. The Book of Beginnings by Sri M P Pandit.3. A Savitri dictionary by Rand Hicks.4. The Bhagavad Gita with Text Translations and Commentaries by Sri Aurobindo.
THEMOTHERSCHILD
1/9/2007 4:56 AM Savitri Book 1 Canto 1 Post 17The next post of Savitri we shall discuss is as follows:A glory of lightnings traversing the earth-scene, Their sun-thoughts fading, darkened by ignorant minds, Their work betrayed, their good to evil turned, The cross their payment for the crown they gave, Only they leave behind a splendid Name. A fire has come and touched men's hearts and gone; A few have caught flame and risen to greater life. Too unlike the world she came to help and save, Her greatness weighed upon its ignorant breast And from its dim chasms welled a dire return, A portion of its sorrow, struggle, fall. To live with grief, to confront death on her road,-- The mortal's lot became the Immortal's share. MEANINGS OF SOME DIFFICULT WORDSChasm = A deep opening or crack on the earth's surface, or on a rock.Dire = Awful, Dreadful, or disastrous in consequences; boding ill.In the last post we discussed how our human nature or earth-nature meets the sons of God, the messengers of the Supreme, the saviors, with death and pain, that is it reacts in a negative way o behaves opposite to Divine Nature. Sri Aurobindo continues to explain the results of the same now in next few lines.A glory of lightnings traversing the earth-scene, “the earth scene” is often traversed by “A glory of lightnings”. The messengers of the Supreme, the sons of Gods are here referred to as the “lightnings” by Sri Aurobindo. Every thought of theirs, every message they give to us is like a ray of light, bright and luminous. But why Sri Aurobindo says they are like lightening but not light? Let us see:
THEMOTHERSCHILD
1/9/2007 4:56 AM Their work betrayed, their good to evil turned, Not only our ignorant minds makes us to be reluctant about the message spread by the Great men, it even makes us think that the works of these Great men are betrayal of something and the good they have done to mankind or they intend to do for us is termed as evil. We can see many of such examples now days. Some people in the media and in our society who call themselves as “Buddhi Jeevis”, have developed a habit of “exposing” the sacred organizations and people. They can go down to any level to achieve the same. The cross their payment for the crown they gave, The saviors who descend as the Grace of Supreme, they us a “crown”. Here “crown” carries a lot of significance. You can take it as Consciousness, Grace, Love, Delight from Supreme, which acts as a protection to us and leads us higher and higher towards Him. But in return, what they get in return? “The Cross”. This is a reference to Jesus Christ’s crucification. Cross also means negation or negligence. What we give them is negligence in return to what they have brought for us.Only they leave behind a splendid Name. Therefore, when earth-nature meets the sons of Gods with death, what remains is their great Name. Sri M P Pandit concludes this paragraph saying that “Man succeeds in pulling down everything” in his “The Book of Beginnings”.
THEMOTHERSCHILD
1/9/2007 4:57 AM A fire has come and touched men's hearts and gone; A few have caught flame and risen to greater life. Sri Aurobindo gives the net results of the discussion so far about human nature and its reaction to divine, in these lines. The Grace of The Supreme, when it descends from above it is like a “fire” that completely reduces our material nature to ashes and ignites a flame of aspiration in our hearts. And after that the fire retires. You use the match stick to light the candle, once the candle is lit; you no longer need the match stick! And also remember from our previous discussions “Only a little the god-light can stay”. Then it is our Sadhana to maintain the fire of that aspiration, and reject all that which tends us to move away from the path and a total and integral surrender, which leads us to a “greater life”, where one stays eternally in static oneness with the Supreme One, and gets unchained from the binding of the death. But such are very few who are capable of catching this fire. And very few who sustains it. Too unlike the world she came to help and save, Savitri has descended in this material world to “help and save” this world. But she is “too unlike the world”, that is Her nature is Greater than the nature of human minds or earth nature. Her greatness weighed upon its ignorant breast And from its dim chasms welled a dire return, A portion of its sorrow, struggle, fall. Our ignorant minds and ignorant world can sustain the Greatness of The Divine Mother, Savitri, in their natural states. And Sri Aurobindo compares the same to a physical or natural process. Whenever certain greater force acts on a brittle material like a rock, it gets cracked and anything hidden behind, may be water or some gas it shoots out. Our world is very brittle. Please remember from our previous discussions:A vaster Nature's joy had once been hers, But long could keep not its gold heavenly hue Or stand upon this brittle earthly base.
THEMOTHERSCHILD
1/9/2007 4:58 AM Therefore, this brittle world is like crust of our “sorrows, struggles and fall”. When the Greatness of the Divine Mother is compelled on our world, it gets cracked to its deep and our sorrows, miseries, struggles well out and The Divine Mother accepts them to relieve us from them and gives us the Love and Protection and makes us strong and strong to receive Her Greater Self. But this happens provided the conditions of The Mother are satisfied and we already know what these conditions are. Therefore, Savitri, The Divine Mother, descends to relieve us from all our struggles, miseries, and falls. But we need to be conscious about it. Until then, The Mother veils Her Greatness, she remains in the unknown form, within us. Similarly Savitri too was forced:To live with grief, to confront death on her road,-- The mortal's lot became the Immortal's share. “To live with grief, to confront death” are inevitable to “The mortal’s lot” that is they are our parts, but not the Divine Mother’s. Grief is something natural to us and so is the battle with the death. But The Divine Mother is from the world of the Supreme, the world of Immortals, and yet she accepts our human limitations, to be with us in the veiled form, and to guide, lead, and sustain us till we achieve our ultimate aim of life. She takes up all the sorrows, miseries of all her children so that we may be relieved and aspire to grow higher and higher, beyond our ignorance, inconscience, and mortality.
THEMOTHERSCHILD
1/9/2007 4:58 AM Here these lines give us answers to some of questions related to The Mother and Sri Aurobindo. Whatever Sri Aurobindo has written in Savitri is His own Yoga, Sadhana and experiences. So it applies to Him as well as The Mother. We know that Savitri and our Mother are one or the same. Some devotees ask questions like “Why Sri Aurobindo and The Mother suffered like humans?”The first thing is they never suffered like humans. Who knows they bore the sorrows of how many devotees? Can any one imagine? They relieved us by that. What we need to know is always what appears on top on surface to our human eyes, is not always the real side, and what’s important is the truth behind the superficial appearance. Another question in the same line “Why Sri Aurobindo and The Mother did not cure themselves? When they could cure so many devotees because of their Sadhana?”And the most famous one is “Why they left their physical envelope?”. I can not use the word “die”, which generally some people use, while they ask this question.The answer is common for both the question. The Mother and Sri Aurobindo did their Sadhana for the whole mankind, for the whole nature, for the whole universe, but NOT only and only for themselves, because they were not selfish. Sri Aurobindo left his physical envelope to create base for the manifestation of the Supramental Consciousness. And then it was The Mother who executed the manifestation of the same, and once when Her work was over, she left Her physical envelope and now is with us, profoundly, in “Sookshma Sharira”, leading us to Supramental Consciousness. Therefore, when we all ready to receive the Supramental Consciousness, The Mother and Sri Aurobindo will return to us. Till then they are doing their Sadhana being in the “Sookshma Sharira”, for us, because what The Mother assured to us? “You just do 1% of the Sadhana required. Rest I will do it for you!” Therefore, once again the pointer comes to our Sadhana.
THEMOTHERSCHILD
1/9/2007 5:00 AM Therefore, once again the pointer comes to our Sadhana. Therefore,Let us aspire for the Grace and Love of The Divine Mother,Let us reject all that deviates us from finding Her Grace and Love,Let us surrender ourselves totally to Her. References:1. The Book of Beginnings by Sri M P Pandit.2. Sri Aurobindo's Savitri: An Approach and a Study by Sri A B Purani.3. A Savitri Disctionary by Sri Rand Hicks
Barindranath
1/9/2007 8:48 AM SAVITRITo begin a thread on Savitri is truly a great job, a true service to Sri Aurobindo and The Mother. Savitri is a Mantra, as has been rightly told by THEMOTHERSCHILD. It is a Revelation. It can be said that it is a Mantra and a Revelation not from any Plane of the Mind — from the beginning to the end, Savitri bears the Touch of the Supramental Consciousness. Even if some lines are from the plane of the Illumined Mind or even the Overmind, it always bears the Touch of the Supermind. That is why, It is unique, new, uncomparable. There is nothing on earth which is comparable to Savitri, excepting perhaps The Life Divine.One particular line from Savitri has been the source of an endless source of courage, strength, inspiration, hope, Love, Blessings and Protection to me in my personal life for more than four decades. The line is well known, but it was and is to me a very very powerful Mantra that could make me stand against all odds and difficulties and problems, even enemies, the agents of the Anti-Divine forces!The line is : All can be done if the God-touch is there.If you have a true and living aspiration, that is the proof the that the Divine has touched you from within. That is the God-touch. If you have that within you, you can surmount the mountains of all difficulties, all problems of whatever magnitude. Sri K R Srinivasa Iyengar has written in his magnum opus Sri Aurobindo:"All over Savitri are scattered lines that seem to be charged with this drive of powerand grace of Grace:He found the occult cave, the mystic door Near to the well of vision in the soul, And entered where the Wings of Glory brood..."According to The Mother, Savitri is "prophetic vision of the world's history, including the announcement of the earth's future."
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THEMOTHERSCHILD
1/3/2007 6:19 AM Not only our earth-nature gives such negative reactions, it does some repulsion:Inflicting on the heights the abysm's law, It sullies with its mire heaven's messengers: Here “abysm” refers to our material world, which has it’s own laws like limitations, ignorance, inconscience, death, etc. in contrary to the “abysm”, Sri Aurobindo speaks of “heights” which naturally refers to The Supreme or His Region, from where the Truth descends. The earth-nature “Inflicts” the laws of our material world on such heights. Sri Aurobindo holds a mirror here. We always tend to “confine” the Divine according to our limitations or even to be on a fair side even according to our convenience. One general example. If you ask some one “Where is God?” 99% of the chances are that he or she may show you a temple. Temples are the places where a particular deity, which is a semblance of a particular form of Grace of The Supreme, is profoundly instituted for our concentration. But we limit – if it can be said so - Divine only to temples and we do the things against Him in other places, just making it convenient for us to carry our illegal activities. Not just this, our material nature does not accept the message of the “heaven’s messengers” and “sullies” then with “mire”. Here “mire” means a lot. Forget about accepting the Divine’s message, we humiliate the messengers, just like what happened with Jesus Christ.
THEMOTHERSCHILD
1/3/2007 6:20 AM Its thorns of fallen nature are the defence It turns against the saviour hands of Grace; It meets the sons of God with death and pain.Whenever a messenger from the Supreme comes here with a message and conveys the same to us, our “fallen nature” which Sri Aurobindo compares to thorns, puts up certain defense against such “sons of god” and turns these thorns as return for their “saviour hands of Grace”. The Grace of Supreme always protects us from any sort of difficulties or problems or difficulties. But our nature, for which ignorance and inconscience are the Bliss, constantly rejects His Grace and it always makes us to take up a path that takes us away from Him. Further Sri Aurobindo says, our nature “meets the sons of the God with death and pain”. For the messengers like Jesus Christ, not only our Nature’s response was “pain” and “death”, I personally feel one more dimension to these words here. If we do not accept the message from the Divine, through such messengers it gives them pain, a sharp pain. They suffer a lot because of our reluctance to them. Any reluctance or ignorance shown to by us to them is their “death”. Because they sacrifice their Perfection, take a mortal birth, live in a mortal body, to uplift our Consciousness, and lead us to Supreme. And if we do not accept their message and be those values, their sacrifice is going waste. To us The Mother and Sri Aurobindo have given us a message, a message to evolve from earth-nature to Divine Nature, to Super Human Nature. The Mother has promised us that She will take us to our real destiny. The only things we are supposed to do are aspire higher and higher for such Nature, and reject all the things which diverts us from the Divine Path and finally a Total and Integral Surrender. Let us complete this discussion with a prayer in Her Lotus Feet to bestow us with the aspiration that leads us to reject all the things which keeps us away from Her and enables us to surrender ourselves totally & integrally
THEMOTHERSCHILD
1/3/2007 6:23 AM References1. Sri Aurobindo's Savitri: An Apporach and A Study by Sri A B Purani.2. The Book of Beginnings by Sri M P Pandit.3. A Savitri dictionary by Rand Hicks.4. The Bhagavad Gita with Text Translations and Commentaries by Sri Aurobindo.
THEMOTHERSCHILD
1/9/2007 4:56 AM Savitri Book 1 Canto 1 Post 17The next post of Savitri we shall discuss is as follows:A glory of lightnings traversing the earth-scene, Their sun-thoughts fading, darkened by ignorant minds, Their work betrayed, their good to evil turned, The cross their payment for the crown they gave, Only they leave behind a splendid Name. A fire has come and touched men's hearts and gone; A few have caught flame and risen to greater life. Too unlike the world she came to help and save, Her greatness weighed upon its ignorant breast And from its dim chasms welled a dire return, A portion of its sorrow, struggle, fall. To live with grief, to confront death on her road,-- The mortal's lot became the Immortal's share. MEANINGS OF SOME DIFFICULT WORDSChasm = A deep opening or crack on the earth's surface, or on a rock.Dire = Awful, Dreadful, or disastrous in consequences; boding ill.In the last post we discussed how our human nature or earth-nature meets the sons of God, the messengers of the Supreme, the saviors, with death and pain, that is it reacts in a negative way o behaves opposite to Divine Nature. Sri Aurobindo continues to explain the results of the same now in next few lines.A glory of lightnings traversing the earth-scene, “the earth scene” is often traversed by “A glory of lightnings”. The messengers of the Supreme, the sons of Gods are here referred to as the “lightnings” by Sri Aurobindo. Every thought of theirs, every message they give to us is like a ray of light, bright and luminous. But why Sri Aurobindo says they are like lightening but not light? Let us see:
THEMOTHERSCHILD
1/9/2007 4:56 AM Their work betrayed, their good to evil turned, Not only our ignorant minds makes us to be reluctant about the message spread by the Great men, it even makes us think that the works of these Great men are betrayal of something and the good they have done to mankind or they intend to do for us is termed as evil. We can see many of such examples now days. Some people in the media and in our society who call themselves as “Buddhi Jeevis”, have developed a habit of “exposing” the sacred organizations and people. They can go down to any level to achieve the same. The cross their payment for the crown they gave, The saviors who descend as the Grace of Supreme, they us a “crown”. Here “crown” carries a lot of significance. You can take it as Consciousness, Grace, Love, Delight from Supreme, which acts as a protection to us and leads us higher and higher towards Him. But in return, what they get in return? “The Cross”. This is a reference to Jesus Christ’s crucification. Cross also means negation or negligence. What we give them is negligence in return to what they have brought for us.Only they leave behind a splendid Name. Therefore, when earth-nature meets the sons of Gods with death, what remains is their great Name. Sri M P Pandit concludes this paragraph saying that “Man succeeds in pulling down everything” in his “The Book of Beginnings”.
THEMOTHERSCHILD
1/9/2007 4:57 AM A fire has come and touched men's hearts and gone; A few have caught flame and risen to greater life. Sri Aurobindo gives the net results of the discussion so far about human nature and its reaction to divine, in these lines. The Grace of The Supreme, when it descends from above it is like a “fire” that completely reduces our material nature to ashes and ignites a flame of aspiration in our hearts. And after that the fire retires. You use the match stick to light the candle, once the candle is lit; you no longer need the match stick! And also remember from our previous discussions “Only a little the god-light can stay”. Then it is our Sadhana to maintain the fire of that aspiration, and reject all that which tends us to move away from the path and a total and integral surrender, which leads us to a “greater life”, where one stays eternally in static oneness with the Supreme One, and gets unchained from the binding of the death. But such are very few who are capable of catching this fire. And very few who sustains it. Too unlike the world she came to help and save, Savitri has descended in this material world to “help and save” this world. But she is “too unlike the world”, that is Her nature is Greater than the nature of human minds or earth nature. Her greatness weighed upon its ignorant breast And from its dim chasms welled a dire return, A portion of its sorrow, struggle, fall. Our ignorant minds and ignorant world can sustain the Greatness of The Divine Mother, Savitri, in their natural states. And Sri Aurobindo compares the same to a physical or natural process. Whenever certain greater force acts on a brittle material like a rock, it gets cracked and anything hidden behind, may be water or some gas it shoots out. Our world is very brittle. Please remember from our previous discussions:A vaster Nature's joy had once been hers, But long could keep not its gold heavenly hue Or stand upon this brittle earthly base.
THEMOTHERSCHILD
1/9/2007 4:58 AM Therefore, this brittle world is like crust of our “sorrows, struggles and fall”. When the Greatness of the Divine Mother is compelled on our world, it gets cracked to its deep and our sorrows, miseries, struggles well out and The Divine Mother accepts them to relieve us from them and gives us the Love and Protection and makes us strong and strong to receive Her Greater Self. But this happens provided the conditions of The Mother are satisfied and we already know what these conditions are. Therefore, Savitri, The Divine Mother, descends to relieve us from all our struggles, miseries, and falls. But we need to be conscious about it. Until then, The Mother veils Her Greatness, she remains in the unknown form, within us. Similarly Savitri too was forced:To live with grief, to confront death on her road,-- The mortal's lot became the Immortal's share. “To live with grief, to confront death” are inevitable to “The mortal’s lot” that is they are our parts, but not the Divine Mother’s. Grief is something natural to us and so is the battle with the death. But The Divine Mother is from the world of the Supreme, the world of Immortals, and yet she accepts our human limitations, to be with us in the veiled form, and to guide, lead, and sustain us till we achieve our ultimate aim of life. She takes up all the sorrows, miseries of all her children so that we may be relieved and aspire to grow higher and higher, beyond our ignorance, inconscience, and mortality.
THEMOTHERSCHILD
1/9/2007 4:58 AM Here these lines give us answers to some of questions related to The Mother and Sri Aurobindo. Whatever Sri Aurobindo has written in Savitri is His own Yoga, Sadhana and experiences. So it applies to Him as well as The Mother. We know that Savitri and our Mother are one or the same. Some devotees ask questions like “Why Sri Aurobindo and The Mother suffered like humans?”The first thing is they never suffered like humans. Who knows they bore the sorrows of how many devotees? Can any one imagine? They relieved us by that. What we need to know is always what appears on top on surface to our human eyes, is not always the real side, and what’s important is the truth behind the superficial appearance. Another question in the same line “Why Sri Aurobindo and The Mother did not cure themselves? When they could cure so many devotees because of their Sadhana?”And the most famous one is “Why they left their physical envelope?”. I can not use the word “die”, which generally some people use, while they ask this question.The answer is common for both the question. The Mother and Sri Aurobindo did their Sadhana for the whole mankind, for the whole nature, for the whole universe, but NOT only and only for themselves, because they were not selfish. Sri Aurobindo left his physical envelope to create base for the manifestation of the Supramental Consciousness. And then it was The Mother who executed the manifestation of the same, and once when Her work was over, she left Her physical envelope and now is with us, profoundly, in “Sookshma Sharira”, leading us to Supramental Consciousness. Therefore, when we all ready to receive the Supramental Consciousness, The Mother and Sri Aurobindo will return to us. Till then they are doing their Sadhana being in the “Sookshma Sharira”, for us, because what The Mother assured to us? “You just do 1% of the Sadhana required. Rest I will do it for you!” Therefore, once again the pointer comes to our Sadhana.
THEMOTHERSCHILD
1/9/2007 5:00 AM Therefore, once again the pointer comes to our Sadhana. Therefore,Let us aspire for the Grace and Love of The Divine Mother,Let us reject all that deviates us from finding Her Grace and Love,Let us surrender ourselves totally to Her. References:1. The Book of Beginnings by Sri M P Pandit.2. Sri Aurobindo's Savitri: An Approach and a Study by Sri A B Purani.3. A Savitri Disctionary by Sri Rand Hicks
Barindranath
1/9/2007 8:48 AM SAVITRITo begin a thread on Savitri is truly a great job, a true service to Sri Aurobindo and The Mother. Savitri is a Mantra, as has been rightly told by THEMOTHERSCHILD. It is a Revelation. It can be said that it is a Mantra and a Revelation not from any Plane of the Mind — from the beginning to the end, Savitri bears the Touch of the Supramental Consciousness. Even if some lines are from the plane of the Illumined Mind or even the Overmind, it always bears the Touch of the Supermind. That is why, It is unique, new, uncomparable. There is nothing on earth which is comparable to Savitri, excepting perhaps The Life Divine.One particular line from Savitri has been the source of an endless source of courage, strength, inspiration, hope, Love, Blessings and Protection to me in my personal life for more than four decades. The line is well known, but it was and is to me a very very powerful Mantra that could make me stand against all odds and difficulties and problems, even enemies, the agents of the Anti-Divine forces!The line is : All can be done if the God-touch is there.If you have a true and living aspiration, that is the proof the that the Divine has touched you from within. That is the God-touch. If you have that within you, you can surmount the mountains of all difficulties, all problems of whatever magnitude. Sri K R Srinivasa Iyengar has written in his magnum opus Sri Aurobindo:"All over Savitri are scattered lines that seem to be charged with this drive of powerand grace of Grace:He found the occult cave, the mystic door Near to the well of vision in the soul, And entered where the Wings of Glory brood..."According to The Mother, Savitri is "prophetic vision of the world's history, including the announcement of the earth's future."
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