Abrahamic supercults insist upon all humans adopting their unverifiable beliefs on pain of persecution or hell-fire. With Sri Aurobindo the insistence is on exclusive dedication to a Yogic Path solely for those who feel the call to take it up & verify it in their own experience.
But why should my inspiration be identical to yours? You are welcome to examine Sri Aurobindo in depth and see for yourself what the connection to Vedas is. Vedic dharm karma is a good way but I see the greatest force in the world of religions as faith in & devition to the Divine
You are free to question but that does not mean that I am obligated to give you an answer you are expecting.π By your definition then things like Yoga etc would cease to be Vedic because many Yogis dont do any of what you are demanding.
No. But that does not mean I depreciate it. Quite the contrary.
How many Hindus today do Vedic Yagyas? Except perhaps for Arya Samaj I dont know of any. There are mathas etc where these are done but most Hindus have ceased to do yagyas. But all have some and some have a lot of bhakti & try to live according to their faith in Ishwara & Shakti.
Where did I counter those who do it? I am happy if you or anyone else does it. I just don't see that it is the exclusive and sole path for all Hindus must be made to conform to. And what I have said is only the ground reality.
He is greater than Shankracharya. Yet I hardly expect u to accept that since it wud make no sense for u to do so at face value. There are many great beings greater than Shankracharya who preceded him & followed him. Still I have nothing but reverence & admiration for Adi Shankar.
If i’m not mistaken the circuitous path represents the journey of those who do not consciously take up Yoga individually & rely upon the general evolution of Nature to carry them along. If so then many starting out keep switching between them & the task is to stay fixed on pathπ
ππΌπ yes, She is the goal and the path. https://t.co/CrneINJTzF
Now is the time for awakened Hindus to become Hero Warriors, marshall our infinte inner resources & push back on all sides against these swallowing darknesses. A remoralized, not demoralized, Hindu is the great necessity of the hour. Stand up, speak up, push back & enlighten all!
Few Hindus even care or are aware. Our demise comes packaged to us as our supreme welfare & our erasure is justified in the name of social justice or progress. In this war Hindus & India are hopelessly under-prepared. Many even preach fatalistic acceptance of this as god's will.
Bhai, world is changing so fast that everything we take for granted today will be gone tomorrow. All forces in the world, except for Hindus, want to impose some kind of revolutionary one-ideology totalitarianism, be it Islam, Left etc. "The gods are still too few in mortal forms"
He has already said bhai "even if the worst of evil-doers adores me unreservedly, known him to be a holy man rightly resolved". Our impurities are being unglued & loosened however long they may persist & thru his gentle brushing or forceful scrubbing they will b shed soon enuffπ
Exactly bhai. His "vigorous scrubbing" is meant in the same way as his "voracious gobbling" in the 11th ch of the Gita.π
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Start with Sri Aurobindo or Adventure of Consciousness by Satprem. If you have no background in Vedantic ideas, do a round of Complete Works of Swami Vivekananda. Then pick Essays on the Gita. Then The Life Divine, then Synthesis of Yoga.
Then the two volumes on The Upanishads. Then The Secret of the Veda. If you are after this for more than intellectual curiosity, then as you read each book engage the material as you would grapple a wrestler. Don’t be discouraged if you don’t get it right away.
There is a certain way to read Sri Aurobindo, to read with an active mind is good but to read with a passive open mind is better..you will find more than your surface thought pouring understanding into you. That’s when the riches are understood or even realised.
Yes Saar. Have to mention, for those with not much inner purity, like me, as long as aspiration is there He does make the purity happen and then lead to deeper understanding and realisation...nothing seems to stop Him, as long as aspiration is there He manages the impossible!
'Gentle brushing or forceful scrubbing'...never was such an understatement uttered in regards to this Yoga. Let me present some truer alternatives, 'smithy of titans', 'dhobi ghat of the forsaken', 'foundry of swords'....π€£π€£π€£
I was polite, you are brutally frank π€£π€£
Is it just me or does anyone else see the same 'leftist logic' perpetrated below being applied to Sri Aurobindo & Mother wrt Hinduism/Sanatana Dharma?
A religious festival and its ritual contexts are a reminder of the Presence behind things and need to make its veneration a constant affair. Remember me always, exhorts Sri Krishna. It is to this constant smarana that the Hindu system prepares the child soul.
May be I have not read many things, but by same coin I doubt if you have experienced anything significant, of either the ascent or the descent. If ever you should hit a stalemate on the path, happy to share what I know. Let us leave it at that Sir.
Am not modest like you Sir...I will step in when a threshold is crossed or something of the Way is misrepresented. Of course each to his own. Let the sadhakas/seekers who read decide what is of utility.
Ha ha...these words might convince the day scholar crowd! When I say I have seen, I indeed have. The experience lives in me. I can give you a breakdown of how to get there if you wish.
And where in Greece or Rome do you have any who can bring down the old Goddesses? We have a living continuity here, which Sri Aurobindo picks up. To the one who has ascended Athena can make appearance, but here below the Indic consciousness keeps the living connection.
The entire book The Mother written by Master is on Her..all the four aspects, Maheshwari, Mahakali, Mahalakshmi, Mahasaraswati are hers, governed by Mahashakti above. Surely, Sri Aurobindo knows a thing or two more about Yoga than book writers.
Saarπ On a lighter note, just occurred to me...if I ever were to write a romance novel...the title would be 'How to love a Tyrant'...my Master plays the Tyrant role π
Ah come on..didn’t mean to be hard..you are guru-bhai...we cover for each other in this realm and the next..this granting of titles I do to all in my fold..so Master is called Tyrant and when in Bhakti He becomes Beloved Tyrant...
π Tyrant for He does not budge an inch in the discipline expected..and Beloved Tyrant because without Him life is not worth the hassle..
Whatever Master teaches shall be shared π
Of this offence the academia opining on SA should be held guilty en masse! The sadhaka is often too entangled in details of sadhana to be so presumptuous, if he is guilty at all it is only of viewing SA from the lens of his individual experience of life and yoga!
Understood Sir, but here is the risk, we have dozens of academic 'cartographers', bound to terra firma opining on realms of thought and experience inaccessible to the non-practitioner, while the sadhaka though lacking map has hewed his way through within himself.
This tweet is true, but don’t see how it is connected to my point. My distinction is about academic opiners and practitioners. For all the papers/lectures produced, how many have attained is my query..making this distinction so that those who are path may evaluate for themselves
Whilst constant evolution is the principle, there are milestones that mark one’s progress. Plenty of details in Letters to a Disciple, Mother’s Agenda, Notebooks of an Apocalypse primarily. Without such brutal self-evaluation, one becomes like neo-vedantins…all talk…
..but barely any realisation..for the mental framework becomes rigid and binds them..this becomes evident abundantly in the description they use and the poise they possess to explain higher phenomena…plenty of word weaving but never tasted a morsel…
Sharing details of one’s inner happenings sometimes opens oneself to external influences, dilution of experience etc. but this caution exercised too much leads to an uncritical examination of our own poise or a passive tamasic acceptance of no progress
Especially in common Hinduism this has led to mere vital touches to be elevated as great spiritual moments, and hence the number of immature spiritual personalities. If you check Sri Aurobindo’s dealing with disciples you will notice this taboo being shattered.
Especially His Letters On Yoga is such a wealth of knowledge about spiritual processes recorded that we can learn for ourselves the extent to which we are yet to grow and become. We learn that a small vital emotional surge is not entirety of Yoga.
We also learn the intricate ways in which our consciousness changes and impacts our external sheath and its dealings with the world. So, on the upside I think people should evaluate themselves critically and share with appropriate folks inner happenings for conscious progress.
Not sure of the specific sadhana you are doing..but this is common when the heart chakra is touched, or if the ego is uncrude enough to make the inner being impose its influence outside..action in each chakra region is perceived variously..
As pressure sometimes, or as a heightening of its characteristic action..its perfectly normal thing to happen..should recur if you persist and will widen its scope slowly...
Oh and the feeling light after that is a good sign that it’s not the normal pressure...important sign...think of this as loosening of the subtle cords of mind-vital-Physical complex...
π Ayyo, please..this phenomenon does occur even without an explicit practise sometimes..remember, the being within has come with an agenda, regardless of the surface being’s routine. And even a simple openness to the Divine is sadhana...
He spoke to me and said, "Behold the people among whom I have sent you to do a little of my work. This is the nature of the nation I am raising up and the reason why I raise them."
Uttarpara Speech by Sri Aurobindo, profoundly rendered by Angad.
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