Note the following words—“presumably”, “does not seem”, “seems to have”, “may have”, “would have”. Is this history or guesswork?
Why this topic on Swami Vivekanada is strated on this group? We Sikhs do not believe in Yoga and Sikh Gurus and Gurbani totally discard it. Vivekanada himdelf said when in USA that he is there to give the knowledge to west which is already known to east.Now a question arises that if i know English, no one will try to teach me, it can be taught to those who do not know.
I mean to say if Vivekanada had tried to share his knwoledge with we indians, he would haven't got such fame because we are aware to that knowledge and could question him/ discuss with him on certain points. he gave the knowledge to west, may be right or wrong but ignorants accepted it cheerfully.
I do not give any importance to Swami Vivekanada, he was scholar of Vedanta and got famed by Hindus due to this reason only. I have read his book VEDANTA found nothing to impress me. Regards --Ajmer Singh Randhawa. New Delhi
http://amitabhbacchan1984.blogspot.com/
Moderator: Your view of Sikhi, Ajmer Singh ji, is very apparently quite at variance with the view of some other Sikhs. You would be interested to read a detailed article here: http://sikhcoalition.org/Sikhism3.asp
Sirdar Kapur Singh ji affirms "it is legitimate to say that the concept of the 'superman', which agitated the mind of Nietzsche during the 19th century in Europe, and from whom the modern Indian thinker, Aurovindo Ghose, has taken his cue, is first of all and truly adumbrated in the Sikh scripture; and that the conscious effort of man alone is at this stage, capable of furthering the process of evolution that has gone so far to make and shape the material and human world, is now more or less accepted by the thinking modern minds."
As regards Sikh thought he says "their treatment by Sikhism is, in the main, on the lines of the Hindu and Buddhist speculative thought. Wherever Sikhism differs or departs from these lines of thought, it does so, as a rule, not by introducing new terms or concepts, but by underlining an already familiar concept or by amplifying or interpreting it otherwise. This is, as it should be, for, thus alone it is possible to effect a genuine new advance or expansion in the cultural and religious horizon of mankind and it is thus that all great cultures and civilizations have emerged and developed."
I mean to say if Vivekanada had tried to share his knwoledge with we indians, he would haven't got such fame because we are aware to that knowledge and could question him/ discuss with him on certain points. he gave the knowledge to west, may be right or wrong but ignorants accepted it cheerfully.
I do not give any importance to Swami Vivekanada, he was scholar of Vedanta and got famed by Hindus due to this reason only. I have read his book VEDANTA found nothing to impress me. Regards --
http://amitabhbacchan1984.blogspot.com/
Moderator: Your view of Sikhi, Ajmer Singh ji, is very apparently quite at variance with the view of some other Sikhs. You would be interested to read a detailed article here: http://sikhcoalition.org/Sikhism3.asp
Sirdar Kapur Singh ji affirms "it is legitimate to say that the concept of the 'superman', which agitated the mind of Nietzsche during the 19th century in Europe, and from whom the modern Indian thinker, Aurovindo Ghose, has taken his cue, is first of all and truly adumbrated in the Sikh scripture; and that the conscious effort of man alone is at this stage, capable of furthering the process of evolution that has gone so far to make and shape the material and human world, is now more or less accepted by the thinking modern minds."
As regards Sikh thought he says "their treatment by Sikhism is, in the main, on the lines of the Hindu and Buddhist speculative thought. Wherever Sikhism differs or departs from these lines of thought, it does so, as a rule, not by introducing new terms or concepts, but by underlining an already familiar concept or by amplifying or interpreting it otherwise. This is, as it should be, for, thus alone it is possible to effect a genuine new advance or expansion in the cultural and religious horizon of mankind and it is thus that all great cultures and civilizations have emerged and developed."
Your view apparently is shaped by 'raagis' untrained in the nuances of Sikh thought,who preach in gurdwaras, interpreting the scripture in their own poor light. Even educated and so called erudite scholars of Sikhism misinterpret profusely. God is interpreted as unborn by one and as 'does not take birth' by another. The first aligns with the Hindu and Christian interpretation, the second with the Islamic. In fact Sikh theology has no standard interpretation so far, as the Christian Church has. There are of course dissenting churches.
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